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Title: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: mickers on December 27, 2010, 11:23:56 PM
Yeah, I know it's mold.   ;)  I made my first gouda (or what I hope will turn out to be a gouda).  I'm drying it in my wine cooler and it is getting some serious mold.  I've been scrubing it with a vinegar/water mixutre, but I'm afraid  that I'm washing some of the rind off.  What is the best course of action?  I've read to wash it with a heavy brine.  Can I submerse it in a heavy brine to take care of the mold then wax it?  Or should I hand wash it and when I'm sure all of the mold is off then I wax it?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: Cheese Head on December 28, 2010, 12:23:38 AM
mickers, welcome.

The root problem is your ripening humidity is too high, recommend reduce.

Rebrining your Gouda will help rebuild a dehydrated hard rind which will help protect against molds but you may overshoot your % salt target. Recommend hand wash then lower humidity (don't overshoot and go too low or you will get cracks (https://cheeseforum.org/articles/2010/12/wiki-surface-defects-cracks/)). Then either continue aging for natural rind or wax or oil rind (https://cheeseforum.org/articles/2010/12/wiki-oiling-rinds/).
Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: mickers on December 28, 2010, 12:35:34 AM
Thanks for the quick reply.  Should I wash with water/vinegar or a heavy brine?
Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: Cheese Head on December 28, 2010, 12:47:54 AM
If you flip through this Board's threads you see plenty of posts about surface molds and solutions.

Most people recommend rubing with mixture of dry salt in vinegar (https://cheeseforum.org/articles/2010/12/wiki-surface-defects-mould/), hits it from both angles!

If you get time and post a picture (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,51.0.html) it would be easier to tell what type of mold.

Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: mickers on December 28, 2010, 12:59:15 AM
Boiling up a brine now.  I'd post a pic, but I've already hit the mold pretty hard with the vinegar/water solution.  If it comes back I'll be sure to post a pic.  FWIW, it looks like bread mold.
Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: mickers on December 28, 2010, 01:53:30 AM
Okay, I was scrubbing the wheel pretty hard and a chunk fell off.  I decided to give it a bite to see how well things were going...wow, it was RANK.  I spent about 2 minutes leaning over the sink and spitting.   :'(  I guess I need to start with an easier cheese.  Would feta be a good start?
Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: linuxboy on December 28, 2010, 02:34:01 AM
The issue is that the green mold you have was not a good variety of roqueforti, if it was even in the penicillium genus. And once it gets a foothold, it will permeate your cheese and make it rather vile.

You may want to consider either waxing/vac packing, or if you want to keep the rind, using a coating with natamycin, or even a natamycin dip to inhibit the mold.
Title: Re: Newbie - There's a lot of green hairs on my cheese?!?!
Post by: mickers on December 28, 2010, 02:59:39 AM
Ummmm, roqueforti, penicilium, natamycin...totally lost :-\

I'm brand new to this and this was my first cheese attempt.  Can you speak English to me?  ;)