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Title: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: judyp on January 01, 2011, 06:07:44 PM
Hello.  I just made my first hard cheese 2 days ago :).  I have been told that Flora Danica is such a nicer culture than Mesophilic starter.  I made my first cheese with it.  It looks good but I won't know if the taste is good for another 3 months.  Since I don't know what these cultures do, I am not sure if I can substitute the  Flora Danica for every call for Mesophillic starter or not.  Does anyone know about this?

Thanks, Judy
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: linuxboy on January 01, 2011, 06:11:19 PM
Hi Judy,

Which cheese?
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: Sailor Con Queso on January 01, 2011, 06:13:56 PM
FD is a Meso starter, so what are you comparing it to? Do you want all of your cheese to taste the same? What cheese did you make?
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: judyp on January 04, 2011, 12:11:11 AM
I made Manchego and Cheddar with FD.  What is the purpose of a culture?  Is it just flavor or is there another purpose?  I am so new to all of this.  Thanks for your patience with such a novice.   ;)  Judy
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: linuxboy on January 04, 2011, 12:21:49 AM
Judy, a culture has five primary purposes. Not all cultures serve all purposes

- To acidify
- To provide primary flavoring, such as diacetyl, in fresh cheeses
- To create openings in the cheese by producing gas
- To provide flavor as the cheese matures by releasing enzymes in the cell wall and in the inside of the cell
- To increase body by forming chains and by having exopolysaccharides available on the cell wall

In aged cheese, it is mostly the enzymes that make a difference for flavor and texture. And different strains and different cultures provide for different flavors.
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: judyp on January 04, 2011, 06:07:27 AM
Thank you for sharing the purpose of the starter!!!  It's critically important! 

One more question, when a recipe calls for 2 oz. of prepared starter, I  froze the starter in ice cube trays.  The cubes can differ greatly in size.  What I thought was a 2 oz. cube  weighs less on the scale.  Should I be weighing these cubes to get 2 oz. or should I be thawing them and measuring 1/4 cup for 2 oz.?  Thanks so much for your help!!!  I'm using a standard ice cube tray, but cube sizes still vary quite a bit. 

Judy
PS...I remember a few years ago when I ventured into making my own bread, I knew nothing...at least now I can trouble shoot many bread problems....mostly from experience.  I wish I had had a forum for bread questions back then!!  The good thing about bread, when it's a flopped loaf, it still makes great croutons.  Does flopped cheese make anything good?
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: linuxboy on January 04, 2011, 06:31:33 AM
You should use 1-2% by volume when using bulk starter. This is in fluid ounces. 1 cup = 8 fl ounces. So measure how many fluid ounces each ice cube space is.

Yes, flopped cheese can be made into processed cheese. It's done all the time commercially. :)
Title: Re: Starter Culture - Purpose
Post by: Boofer on January 04, 2011, 06:37:01 AM
Quote from: judyp on January 04, 2011, 06:07:27 AM
Does flopped cheese make anything good?
I've had some flops (Boy, have I!  ;) ) that I ended up using grated on pasta, on toast, or combined with something else. That is, unless they were really bad! In which case, I dumped them.

-Boofer-