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Title: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: iain on April 12, 2011, 03:01:25 PM
Quick question: how long will mold cultures (geo & p. candidum) last reconstituted in water, stored in a spray bottle in the refrigerator? I have some that have been in there for a couple of weeks now and would rather use them than mix up a new batch. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: linuxboy on April 12, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
Pure spores? In sterile water? 5-20 years.

Normal water/impure spores (spores with media or substrate)? maybe 6-12 months?

Anything else depends on how you did it. Do you mean they're mixed together?
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: iain on April 12, 2011, 05:54:18 PM
I have a spray bottle with distilled water, a pinch of salt, a pinch of sugar, and a small amount of Choozit Geo 13 and P. Candidum. I sprayed some cheeses a few weeks ago and put the remainder in the refrigerator. I just wasn't sure if it would still be effective, or if I should mix up a new batch using new freeze-dried cultures.
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: linuxboy on April 12, 2011, 06:01:53 PM
You're fine. After it becomes turbid, you have about 2 weeks before you need to rebatch that mix. if you did it in sterile water, it would last years.
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: arkc on May 15, 2011, 09:34:06 AM
Where do you get sterile water?
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: linuxboy on May 15, 2011, 02:40:40 PM
I make mine. For a quick solution, take RO or distilled water, and boil it, or if possible, boil in pressure canner. Cool and use. Or filter through a bacteriological filter. Or autoclave.
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: arkc on May 15, 2011, 03:35:14 PM
Thank you.

arkc
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: susanky on May 15, 2011, 04:22:44 PM
Some spores can survive boiling, right?  So using distilled water solves this problem?  My water supply is a cistern.  I usually boil water before using to dilute rennet etc, but always wonder if something might survive.
Susan
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: linuxboy on May 15, 2011, 06:32:53 PM
QuoteSome spores can survive boiling, right?
Many can, yes. That's why one autoclaves, 121C for 15-20 mins.
QuoteSo using distilled water solves this problem?
mmm, if one has a good process, most of the time, yes.
QuoteI usually boil water before using to dilute rennet etc, but always wonder if something might survive.
Yes, but honestly, there's more risk of contamination from the environment/during handling than spores surviving. It's typically a non-issue in practical use.
Title: Re: Mold Cultures In Spray Bottle - Life Expectancy & How To Make Sterile Water
Post by: susanky on May 15, 2011, 08:20:36 PM
Good to know. Though I DO have access to an autoclave. Maybe I'll sterilize a half-gallon or so...
Susan