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Title: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 01:38:25 PM
I just HAD to start a "stilton" a few days ago.

Actually I started one on April 27 when the tornado band hit from Mississippi to north of me in Virginia, and I lost power, internet...  one tree, and the stilton in the make.

Just smoothed this one and it's ready for the cave.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: Tomer1 on May 12, 2011, 03:28:58 PM
Its like an awesome cake!
Can I get one for my birthday?!
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 03:51:34 PM
LOL, it DOES look kinda like a birthday cake, doesn't it?

I only have 2 molds (so far) and the taller one wouldn't hold all the curds.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: sstrantz on May 12, 2011, 03:56:39 PM
Yay!!! A new one and no electricity loss!
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 04:13:27 PM
You're funny, Sue!

I was really surprised at the ease of smoothing the voids. I had saved a couple of tablespoons of curds from the make to use for the voids, but only needed some where one edge had crumbled. The rest smoothed easily with the spatula I use for icing cakes. Messy, though since it was at room temps.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 06:21:10 PM
Help!! BIG Oops... I used Linuxboy's recipe and directions from here:
http://www.wacheese.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=71:stilton-approximation-howto&catid=38:bloomy-rind-and-blue&Itemid=58 (http://www.wacheese.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=71:stilton-approximation-howto&catid=38:bloomy-rind-and-blue&Itemid=58)

I was following the directions step-by-step, but somehow missed the step of adding salt to the curds. What can I do at this point, if anything?
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: linuxboy on May 12, 2011, 06:25:11 PM
You can surface salt, or brine. IMHO, brining is a little tough because this cheese is rather acidic. Surface salting would work pretty well.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 06:33:59 PM
How much surface salt to a 1300g wheel?

Or do I salt more than once?
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: JeffHamm on May 12, 2011, 06:40:02 PM
That looks great!  I'm thinking of making a stilton like cheese soon.  We're going to be away for a week in the near future though, so I'm putting it off until we get back. 

- Jeff
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: linuxboy on May 12, 2011, 06:46:04 PM
Quote from: darius on May 12, 2011, 06:33:59 PM
How much surface salt to a 1300g wheel?

Or do I salt more than once?

What coarseness salt? For medium, flake type salt, I would salt twice. At day one out of the mold (should be about day 5-6 from the start of the make), and at day 3. I would salt at 3% of weight the first time, and about 2% the second time. You could also do a light salting the third time, about 10 days from the beginning of the make.. maybe 1% more. Depends how salty you want it and how you want to surface to grow. You could also do something like 4-5% right away to build more of a salt gradient and have less mold on the surface.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 06:50:14 PM
Thanks, Pav. I have flake salt and will salt it asap. Don't know how I missed that step!
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 12, 2011, 06:54:25 PM
Jeff, good luck when you make yours. The recipe I used is really great (if you don't forget the salt!) and pretty easy to do. The first one I used (the failure due to tornadoes) wasn't as easy through the steps.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on May 22, 2011, 05:04:29 PM
At the beginning of this thread, I mentioned I had started my first 'Stilton' when the tornadoes hit and I lost power... including the online recipe and instructions I was following.

I decided to save it anyway, just for the experience. When we got power again and I checked the recipe, I found the biggest thing I missed was the size of the curds. By the time I could read the recipe, it was many days later so no changes were possible.

At any rate, here it is at 26 days, just pierced. (The second one above that looks like a birthday cake is coming along, slowly. It's rather moist on the surface so I'm opening the container more often now.)

Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: JeffHamm on May 22, 2011, 08:15:04 PM
Thanks for the update.  I won't be able to start any more cheeses for a few weeks, but a blue is in the plan for the fairly near future.  I want to try and age one out for 90 days.  Will see.

- Jeff
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: mtncheesemaker on May 22, 2011, 11:59:44 PM
Both your cheeses are looking good! I must jump on the Stilton bandwagon soon.
Pam
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on June 07, 2011, 03:06:53 PM
I intended to update this thread a week ago. My blues went into the garbage bin. I was away for 4 days, turned them before I left and left the rubbermaid tub lid slightly ajar. When I got home and went to turn them again, there was a fly in the container and maggots in at least the earlier blue. I threw them both away, all 5 pounds. No more aging in the root cellar until winter, unless vacuum-sealed!!

I did cut it open to see how the veining was looking. I'm pretty pleased with that part.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: Sailor Con Queso on June 07, 2011, 04:16:00 PM
Bummer. You could always use mosquito netting under the lid.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on June 07, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
Ahhh, great idea, Sailor!
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: OudeKaas on June 08, 2011, 12:42:02 AM
That mottled rind looks fabulous! Should be interesting to see how the unsmoothed surface turns out in terms of mold penetration into the deep crevices between the curds. Very curious to see a slice when you finally cut it . . .

Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on June 08, 2011, 11:57:29 AM
Brandnetel, it went into the garbage... re-read my post from yesterday.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: ArnaudForestier on June 08, 2011, 12:04:05 PM
Quote from: darius on May 22, 2011, 05:04:29 PM
At the beginning of this thread, I mentioned I had started my first 'Stilton' when the tornadoes hit and I lost power... including the online recipe and instructions I was following.

I decided to save it anyway, just for the experience. When we got power again and I checked the recipe, I found the biggest thing I missed was the size of the curds. By the time I could read the recipe, it was many days later so no changes were possible.

At any rate, here it is at 26 days, just pierced. (The second one above that looks like a birthday cake is coming along, slowly. It's rather moist on the surface so I'm opening the container more often now.)

Man, darius, have to say - that looks downright beautiful.  Great.  Another cave I have to build, thanks. ;D
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on June 08, 2011, 12:12:04 PM
Thanks, Paul. I really feel good about the development of those 2 blues even though they ended up in the garbage bin.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: ArnaudForestier on June 08, 2011, 12:21:32 PM
Oh, arghhhhh - sorry, darius, didn't see your above post, only saw the pic of your beautiful blue from the last page.  I'm so sorry, man!  Congratulations nevertheless on crafting such a beautiful wheel - I'm sure next round will be a home run. :)
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: OudeKaas on June 08, 2011, 11:58:37 PM
Allow me to add my condolences to the list. The veining did look splendid!
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: JeffHamm on June 10, 2011, 10:10:08 PM
Such a shame.  It was looking very promising.  I think the netting would do the trick, and the progress you were making suggests it is certainly worth doing again.

- Jeff
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: Tomer1 on June 10, 2011, 10:57:52 PM
I was having some danblue today and compering it side by side to my stilton and despite being of different style I much prefered mine,
Less salty,more mild (I like this strain of italian PR,gone keep buying it) and better texture.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: Tomer1 on June 10, 2011, 11:06:12 PM
Crappy phone picture,
The one's from my dads nikon D40 will come up soon.  >:D

Some 3 month out gouda which seems to have overly acidify, wasnt a success.
Some lactic cheese logs with cheevs,very early PC and sweet paprica.

Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: darius on June 11, 2011, 12:04:59 AM
Never fear Jeff... I got back on the horse again this evening. Curds are just now cut, and healing.
Title: Re: Joining the Blue Bandwagon
Post by: JeffHamm on June 11, 2011, 01:34:48 AM
Excellent to hear!  A cheese for perseverance!

- Jeff