I recently bought a mass manufactured Brie/Camembert (reviewed here (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,7694.0.html)) whose ingredients were all normal except for one which was labelled "Modified Milk Ingredients".
I've seen this on some other store bought cheeses, anyone know what that is (UltraFiltration Milk?) and why did they use it?
It is any extract from milk, as it exists in milk, or in a modified form. For example, casein extract, whey fat, etc.
Alexis de portneuf routinely uses UF milk and its products, like modified retentate. They even import retentate from France.
Thanks linuxboy, OK so i had to look up retentate, two similar definitions:
- That which is retained, for example by a filter or porous membrane.
- In a filtration process, retentate is the part of a solution that does not cross the membrane (as opposed to the diffusate).
Yikes they import that from France, presumably shipped by sea which means it must be Ultra Pasteurized . . . OK, have to stop buying cheese and instead start making more.
Not necessarily, you can filter out bacteria through membranes. Also, can bactofugate and spin them out for collection. But yeah, it's a totally engineered cheese. It's not that bad qualitatively, just not my idea of what cheesemaking ought to be.
Uuum, thanks, OK, so don't have to UP, can filter out presumably all bacteria, not just bad ones, or can bactofugate the dewatered milk to make it last a long time. Had to look that word up also:
"Bactofugation of centrifugal decontamination of milk is a technology commonly used in the cheese industry to remove bacterial spores from milk; the difference in density between the spores and milk allows them to settle under the effect of a centrifugal force".
The more you teach/I learn about processed foods the less I want to eat them.
It's a huge slippery slope. It goes something like this
1) Wow, we're so smart now, we've figured out DNA, how plants work, and how soils work to produce crops that give us outrageous yields (1950s)
2) Huh, and now we have to figure out how to process all these things. Cool, some materials science, some engineering, a bit of heat applied, and process management, and we can really squeeze every last little good use out of the raw materials. After all, people want standardized, uniform everything, and bankers need to be paid.
3) Amazing, we're all so smart, look at us cranking out 50x the yield per acre and turning it into all sorts of great products. We can even take milk, squeeze every last little bit of solids out of it to make cheese, and compete that way.
4) Huh, all that cheap food, it causes population booms. Oh and it's not really the healthiest stuff for you, but it's comparable. It has the same number of calories, and the rest we can fix with vitamin supplements. It's not going to be a medical issue at all.
5) wow, we've been at it for over 50 years now. So much progress. A nation of people with diabetes? It's their choice to eat what they eat, not our fault. It's the consumer who decides. We'll make whatever the consumer wants.
6) So let's keep it all coming, there are profits to be made
The crazy thing is that a lot of times, the underlying desire is positive... to feed the world, feed the hungry. To make food last longer, etc. But, as happens with commerce, once a system starts, it's extremely difficult to change.
Sick people are good business.
They buy alot of medicine,work hard because they fear getting fired because of their sickness and then die prematurly before enjoying any benifits.
linuxboy, thanks, slowly the jig saw starts to fit together in my brain.
Tomer1, agree, when I joined my company 15 years ago the guy sort of joked that the good news was that the pension plans were fully funded, and that the bad news was that the reason was because the average worker only makes it 2 years into retirement. A guy at work I knew died unexpectedly Friday at 53, left wife and 3 kids . . . another guy I know closer is going second heart bypass . . . remember the movie Metropolis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(film)).