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Title: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 25, 2011, 04:18:37 PM
Making my second cheddar today, going with the stirred curd method from this recipe  https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2537.msg46046.html#msg46046 (https://cheeseforum.org/forum/index.php/topic,2537.msg46046.html#msg46046)  and also tips from Ricki Carrol's book

This time around I wrote down all my plans ahead of time, and am taking notes along the way so I can learn.  Right now it's doing it's thing with the culture, almost ready to add my rennet.

Keep your fingers crossed for me!   :)
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Cheese Head on September 25, 2011, 04:28:12 PM
Good luck ;)!

Couldn't resist, picture is off internet, but our next door neighbor's youngest looks just like her!
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 25, 2011, 04:29:55 PM
LOL! That pretty much sums up exactly how I feel!    ::)
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 25, 2011, 06:26:45 PM
So as I'm going along, i guess I'll ask questions.  After I cut the curds, I moved on to heating slowly to 100 degrees over 30 minutes.  I accomplished that, however I wonder if I stirred too much and broke up the curds too much.

After 30 minutes heating to 100, this is the size of the curds? Too small? Does it even matter? 
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Tomer1 on September 25, 2011, 06:33:22 PM
Too small compered to what? the size is part of what will determine your final moisture content and basically what ever it is it will turn out good given enough time to age.
Is it rice size or bigger? I have no idea how big a quarter is.
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 25, 2011, 07:08:26 PM
I guess compared to what other people are doing, my last cheddar the texture was a bit dry.  I think I did better this time.

It's now sitting at 100 for an hour, then into the press.  Things went much smoother this time around!
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 25, 2011, 09:10:21 PM
In the end, I was able to follow the recipe with few mishaps though I really think I beat up my curds too much.  It's currently pressing.  We did 10 minutes at 1 PSI, 15 minutes at 3 PSI, currently at 6 PSI for two hours, then we'll do 8PSI for 24 hours.

I think I'll buy a different mold for next time, and will probably get a wine chiller for aging instead of the fridge this time.  I'm thinking I'd like to try a gouda next.

Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Cheese Head on September 26, 2011, 11:31:46 PM
Sue, I haven't made cheddar, but from here it all looks great. Great to see those weights put to work 8)!
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 27, 2011, 03:11:29 PM
Out the press, my beautiful little 'ole cheese.  I'll leave it out for a few days, then wax.  Then the hard part comes = Waiting.


Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Tomer1 on September 27, 2011, 04:49:56 PM
Lovly smooth skin,
I still havent perfected the method,sometimes I get a smooth surface and sometimes I get wrinkles.
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Gürkan Yeniçeri on September 27, 2011, 09:49:01 PM
Nice looking cheddar Sue, well done.

Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on September 28, 2011, 03:26:22 PM
Thank you both.  :)

I press the cheese in a large pantry we have, the temperature in there is about 83ish degrees.  I think that helps create the smooth surface.

Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on November 30, 2011, 05:20:18 PM
I opened the cheese (parents came to visit so I cut them a slice and re-waxed for them to take home.  I was happy to see no mold under the wax.  The cheese is a bit more dry than I had hoped, but it has a nice mild cheddar flavor.  I re-waxed and put back into the cave and plan on opening it again in January.

Here are a few pictures
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: MrsKK on November 30, 2011, 05:43:28 PM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: ellenspn on November 30, 2011, 06:46:35 PM
I'm with Mrs KK.  That looks really good....where is my agree button when I need it? (Sorry for the Ravelry reference.)
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on January 02, 2012, 04:13:57 PM
Making this again today, I'm going to try to not 'beat up' the curds too much this time to try and get a cheddar that is not so crumbly. 

I re-waxed the one I made in September (the original one in this thread)  after giving my parents half, I'm going to let it go a few more months before I test it again
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on January 04, 2012, 06:04:44 PM
So I took it out of the press last night, it was pretty moist feeling still (kind of had more 'give' to it than the one previously).  Hopefully this means I'll end up with less of a crumbly cheese in the  end.
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Tomer1 on January 04, 2012, 07:24:30 PM
Was it crumbly and dry last time or just crumbly?   because the second condition is related more to salting acidity then mositure.
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on January 05, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
I thought it was a little too dry, still had a bit of a creamy texture when eaten though.  Then again, I tested it at around 2 months which I know is way too soon.  I did not keep track of acidity, I will do so from now on, thanks for the tip.  This is only my second cheddar. 


Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Tomer1 on January 06, 2012, 12:15:19 AM
I dont think cheddar is enjoyable this young, espacially when not making a high moisture version.
Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Sue~ on April 08, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
I can hardly believe it, six months later it tastes like cheddar.   ;D  I rewaxed one half and will let it go until september

The one thing I notice is that while smooth and creamy, there are some bites that have a bit of "graininess", like a grain of sand got in the cheese. It's not a lot, just every now and then.  Any ideas why?

Title: Re: Stirred curd cheddar
Post by: Boofer on April 09, 2012, 05:20:51 AM
Quote from: Sue~ on April 08, 2012, 08:15:00 PM
The one thing I notice is that while smooth and creamy, there are some bites that have a bit of "graininess", like a grain of sand got in the cheese. It's not a lot, just every now and then.  Any ideas why?
Sounds like amino acid crystals (http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/blogs/editor/2011/11/cheese-crystals.html). An aged cheese will develop these. I've had them develop several times.

Not a problem...actually a sign of quality in an aged cheese.

-Boofer-