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Title: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 02, 2011, 07:24:18 PM
I used a combination of the Feta recipe in the Wiki and the 200 Homemade Cheese recipe.

1 gal whole p/h milk
1/8 t goat lipase (Mad Millie)
1/2 packet Meso culture (Mad Millie, 1 pkt=2 gal)
5 drops Cal Chloride

Heated milk to around 87 deg and since I don't have a pH meter yet (next purchase!) I'm going based on the 1 hour in the 200 HC book.  Keeping eye on temp of vat...I'll check in with the rennet and flocculation later.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 02, 2011, 08:47:15 PM
0.8 ml of vegetable rennet (also from Mad Millie) added with a flocculation time of 15:54.  With a 4X multiplier this is 1:03:36 but who's counting ;)

Temperature holding steady.

Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 03, 2011, 02:17:09 AM
Once I got my temp straightened out and accidentally warming it to 96 degrees (!!!!!!) I got it cooled down while waiting for rennet to finish it's work.

Checked for a clean break, beautiful!  Cut into 1/2" cubes in two directions.  The third I attempted to do with the slotted ladle...I won't do it that again with a batch this small.  I left it to heal for 10 minutes.

Stirred on and off for the next 30 minutes.  Cut a lot of curds during the initial stirring.  Was stirring at a pretty good clip by the end, but not constantly.  Not having much trouble with it matting.  Let it rest 5 minutes then ladled into two cylindrical mold from Mad Millie.

Reserved the whey and collected two containers full of whey and added 2 T of non-iodized salt to each. 

Flipped mold after 5 min, 15 min, 30 minutes, 1:30 hours (went to get ice cream) and now it will sit overnight.

Now I'll be brining the 1/2 or more of the feta and just salting the rest.  I can't wait to dig into some.  Here are the pictures I took.  I'm still getting the flocculation video edited.

Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 03, 2011, 01:40:24 PM
This morning I quickly removed the feta from the molds, dropped them in sterilized containers and put some salt on them.  One piece I'll cut up and salt for immediate consumption.  The second one I'm cutting into larger pieces to brine.  I'll cut it up and and re-salt it after I get home.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 05, 2011, 01:46:57 PM
On Monday (10/3) the chunks were cut up and distributed two ways.  A smaller amount was directly salted and is over half gone  ::) The other portion was sliced and put in the reserved whey/brine in the oh so convenient lock n locks from Mad Millie.  I checked it yesterday morning, no sliminess and the curd was holding firm.  I'll check it again tonight.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 07, 2011, 01:15:53 AM
Today went to remove the blocks and discovered that only a few near the top of the container were slightly soft so I added more salt and some CaCl to the brine. Blocks are about 3x2x1" in size.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: Gürkan Yeniçeri on October 07, 2011, 03:31:10 AM
Hi Ellen,

May be you should add some vinegar to your brine to increase the acidity. this will prevent melting. You can reuse your brine too. Don't chuck it away. Boil and pasteurise the brine and filter it through muslin to remove big particules and adjust the salt level as required.

Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 07, 2011, 01:48:53 PM
That's a good point.  I didn't think about lowering the pH.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: T-Bird on October 07, 2011, 04:04:51 PM
I bet your whey brine is already acidic. T-Bird
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 07, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
But the question is my whey acidic enough.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: T-Bird on October 08, 2011, 12:55:21 AM
Mine was. I used the fiascofarm.com recipe except that I used whey instead of water- worked perfectly. Salted the whey after the make and refrigerated it. My friends were amazed, I told them how easy it was and it will be even better when I use lipase (which I have now). I had zero "melting" probs.  Aged in the fridge 30 days.T-Bird
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 08, 2011, 05:26:36 AM
The vinegar is a good idea just 1 teaspoon of vinegar per gallon of brine.  It really will help as a preventative of softening.  But once soft, you're stuck so far as I know.  LinuxBoy once mentioned some sort of ion exchange that takes place.  The vinegar is supposed to give up it's ion, rather than the cheese.  That's a rudimentary explanation, and the best of my recollection, so I could be off on some details.  From personal experience, if I don't vinegar, cheese softens, if I do vinegar, cheese doesn't soften, it's that simple for me.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 09, 2011, 01:14:37 AM
Now was that brine made from whey?
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 09, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
Yes, made with whey.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 10, 2011, 03:31:26 AM
Okay!  Thanks smilingcalico I got vinegar added to both my containers tonight and will add it to the schedule for next two  :D
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 10, 2011, 08:33:45 PM
Good, hope your cheese comes out well.  I just made a batch today.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: T-Bird on October 10, 2011, 10:23:59 PM
calico, you had a whey brined cheese soften? How long did you let it sit before salting it? I let my whey sit in the fridge for 3 days while my cubed up curds sat, salted in a clean tupperware container "tuffening up". I then salted the whey. Maybe it's the "tuffening up" that prevented the melting. I had some last night- quite firm-no vinegar or calcium. T-Bird
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 11, 2011, 03:11:17 AM
I let mine sit out for 2 days, to toughen as you say.  I shouldn't declare it all or nothing.  Sometimes they melted, sometimes they didn't.  So, now I don't bother to risk it.  I add a teaspoon of vinegar per gallon, and no problem.  It's a good cheap fix.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: T-Bird on October 11, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
Maybe I was lucky. First time's a charm, or something like that. I guess any research that has a sample size of 1 is likely to have some unrecorded data. T-Bird
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 12, 2011, 02:49:40 AM
HAHA, yeah, my first batch came out perfect too.  I didn't know what all the hullabaloo was about.  Now I know that not all makes behave as well.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 12, 2011, 11:25:14 PM
The pH of my brine for this batch is hovering around 4.5.  It maybe that it got too hot when I was stirring the curds?
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 13, 2011, 05:28:20 AM
With what are you taking pH?  Some meters are sensitive to the temperature of the subject being measured.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on October 13, 2011, 05:29:38 PM
Brand new Extek pH 110. I'm taking my readings when the temp stabilizes.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: smilingcalico on October 14, 2011, 04:15:06 AM
If it doesn't come back up on its own you can add baking soda a little at a time to bring the pH to your desired target.
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: ellenspn on November 05, 2011, 07:35:26 PM
I've been slowly eating this.  Other than amount of salt making it a bit bitter it tastes good.

I plan to re-use the brine.  Any pointers for me filtering and storing it?
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: mtncheesemaker on November 06, 2011, 02:25:07 AM
I just skim off any scum on the top and filter it through cheesecloth if it looks like it needs it, and keep it in the fridge. You can check the salinity to see if you need to add more salt.
Pam
Title: Re: Feta #3 (#1 to actually age)
Post by: Gürkan Yeniçeri on November 07, 2011, 10:09:52 PM
I boil, filter, adjust salt and pH and keep it in the glass jars in my pantry.