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Title: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: max1 on November 13, 2011, 08:53:23 PM
Although I'm sure most of you, being surely every bit as enthusiastic about cheese makiing as I am, have trawled YouTube for such videos, thought I'd put these up anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv79o_Zs3bs&feature=feedlik# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv79o_Zs3bs&feature=feedlik#)

Since I speak french, thought I'd translate out some of the more interesting nuggets of information:


Here's a second one.  Not much to add here.  He mainly speaks of, once again, the importance of raw milk and grass fed cows.  In fact he says that since they use raw milk, they are not allowed to feed the cows with grain that's been stored in silos.  Does anyone know the reason behind this?  Fermentation of the grain?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8OYxIwgJw&feature=related# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8OYxIwgJw&feature=related#)

There you go, hope some of you find that interesting.  Nothing very new, but still fun to watch!
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: smilingcalico on November 14, 2011, 06:34:36 AM
Enjoyed the videos, thanks.
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: boothrf on November 14, 2011, 10:45:34 AM
Thanks Max, lovely videos. So much history in European cheese making!
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: Boofer on November 14, 2011, 03:45:43 PM
Quote from: max1 on November 13, 2011, 08:53:23 PM
...they are not allowed to feed the cows with grain that's been stored in silos.  Does anyone know the reason behind this?  Fermentation of the grain?
Not sure, but the attached doc might be one reason: toxins.

Thanks for the videos. Never doubt putting up a video or a pic.

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: linuxboy on November 14, 2011, 05:12:58 PM
It's about silage. Fermented greens, not necessarily grain. The reason is because it makes for an inferior product, and tends to shift the ambient flora to clostridia and other bacteria that do well with silage. Basically, not feeding silage is one way to help preserve the high quality of the product.
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: max1 on November 15, 2011, 08:08:44 PM
Ok, makes sense then, that in order to meet stardards they aren't allowed to feed silage.  Thanks!  But what by-product of the fermentation changes the conditions to favor clostridia?
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: Tomer1 on November 15, 2011, 08:30:08 PM
I like their method of heating the whole wheel to melt the cheese and "reseal" it.
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: max1 on November 15, 2011, 11:13:34 PM
Yup, I had raclette like that once.  They set the cheese in front of a fire (or in our case a heating appliance) and when the top surface has melted, you scrape the cheese off.  'Racler' in french, thus the name raclette I guess.
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: Tomer1 on November 16, 2011, 12:30:19 AM
So is it mainly a melting cheese or is just a table cheese which melts really nicely?
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: boothrf on November 23, 2011, 12:00:28 PM
Raclette is traditonally eaten as a melted cheese. The half wheel has the cut face heated on a special griller, or by the fire, as in the video. The melted cheese is then scraped off onto fresh, crusty bread. It is absolutely magnificent, and when combined with a nice crisp white wine, hard to beat as an afternoon snack!
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: zenith1 on November 23, 2011, 02:43:58 PM
To Max's question-not entirely sure about the complex nature of the process but, Clostridium is an obligate anaerobe-meaning that it requires an environment completely lacking oxygen. Thinking about the process of making silage and the out gassing that occurs naturally, perhaps creating the needed conditions for this bug. To the questions of toxins, again Clostridium could be the uninvited guest because of the potent toxins(think botulism) that it produces. Silage and the making there of has been implicated in more than one disease process. Farmers have known this for some time suffering from "farmers lung" and even death from asphyxiation from entering unvented silos.
Title: Re: Raclette Videos - French Alps
Post by: zenith1 on November 23, 2011, 02:59:09 PM
You have to love the end of both video clips-everyone sitting around the table eating a simple lunch that includes that great cheese!