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Title: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on February 04, 2012, 02:50:26 PM
After an almost 3 year hiatus from Camembert making today I start my 9th batch based on Wiki: Brie/Camembert Cheese Making Recipe (https://cheeseforum.org/articles/wiki-brie-camembert-cheese-making-recipe/) updated with learning's from fellow member's posts. This batch uses 3 US gallons / 11 liters of store bought Pasteurized & Homogenized cow milk.

MAKING
BLOOMING
RIPENING
CONSUMING


NOTES
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on February 04, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
Consuming pictures . . .
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on February 15, 2012, 12:17:03 AM
OK, starting to have problems, see records in original post and slight slip skin in last picture.

I just patted the mold down and replaced in containers in fridge cave with lid adjar to dry out a little overnight, any advice appreciated!

PS: Happy Valentines day to all!
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Boofer on February 15, 2012, 01:24:24 AM
John, thanks for posting all those pics. You know me...I'm a sucker for pictures. A little vicarious thrill being there looking over your shoulder....

Sorry, no advice to give. Never done a Cam yet.

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Oberhasli on February 15, 2012, 05:44:14 AM
Happy Valentine's Day to you too!  I think if you can keep the humidity down in your containers you can keep the slip skin at bay.  They are looking good.  I have had pretty good luck just leaving my cams out on racks exposed in the fridge to age.  They don't collect the humidity in the boxes and seem to still age quite well.  But, if you have other cheeses aging in the fridge, you probably wouldn't want to do that. 

Good luck with your cams.

Bonnie
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on February 17, 2012, 12:34:12 AM
Thanks both, just added two more snaps, looking good but still very soft around top and bottom "corners", bloom pjhase done, just placed in kitchen fridge to ripen to da core!

Going to make another batch this weekend, which of course means I'll be eating cam's until I'm sick of them.
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 17, 2012, 08:39:35 PM
Open the door and let the air in!
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on February 24, 2012, 02:24:21 PM
Cut first one today, chose one with most slips kin around perimeter, pics above, small liquidy around edge, nice taste and texture but still firm and lightly chalky, no gooyness yet.
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 29, 2012, 09:14:28 PM
They look delich!
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on March 11, 2012, 11:57:29 AM
Thanks Deb, I've now eaten 4 of this batch of six, thoughts in first post and pictures above, as you can see still fighting ripening issues of partial slip skin and uneven development, but they do taste way better than the store bought stuff!
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Boofer on March 12, 2012, 02:08:07 PM
Looks like a cam assembly line. I like those ripening boxes that hold a pair.

They look good. Are you cam'd out or do you plan to make some more and conquer the slipskin problem?

-Boofer-
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: FRANCOIS on March 12, 2012, 09:01:33 PM
I would suggest:
-no geo 13, not unless you can drain them better.
-use MA4001 instad of MM100, it will get your whey off faster and allow you to brine and dry.  You should be designing the recipe to get your cheese as dry as possible from thelooks of the slip skin issue you are facing.
-more air!
-brine them, it will give you much better rind development and uniformity.

Your pH markers should be:
-rennet at 0.15 - 0.2 pH drop from start
-30 min set, not 60
-stir to a pH less than 6.3 (6.2 is best)
-Leave to drain in a warm area to pH 4.8 or less, this should take about 12 hours if you can keep the cheese at 70F.  Immediately brine them in a cool (55F) brine and place in your ripeneing room.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Cheese Head on March 12, 2012, 11:57:08 PM
Boofer, I've made three batches in last month so yes getting there, I currently have 15 in fridges at different stages of ripening and yes trying to get these better!!!

Francois, thanks for ideas, will try to incorporate as many as possible on next batch. Problem with giving them more air is in fridge it's very low humidity so cheeses dry out.
Title: Re: Camembert - John's Batch #9
Post by: Boofer on March 14, 2012, 05:48:45 AM
Way back in time now...I installed a laptop cooler in the back of my cave to circulate the air inside. Maybe you could fashion something similar. It's just a couple fans in a flat plastic enclosure.

-Boofer-