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Title: UPDATE: changed to some sort of PenC ripened cheese, looking good.
Post by: anarch on February 28, 2012, 02:16:31 AM
I normally start with raw cow milk, heat to 145F, hold for 1 hr, mix in cultures.

Tonight 3 yr old and almost 2 yr old daughters distracted me, milk was at 170F by the time I checked it.

Is this milk still ok for fromage blanc?  I was planning on eating half fresh, then molding half and doing a light penC mist and aging a tad.
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 28, 2012, 03:04:41 AM
Did you let it cool before adding your cultures?
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: anarch on February 28, 2012, 03:26:37 AM
It is still cooling, currently 110F,  was planning on adding them at about 88F.

It the high heat won't have adverse effects on coagulation.

Heck, at this stage I'm doing it when it hits....already have a ton of yogurt in there.
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: linuxboy on February 28, 2012, 03:30:36 AM
For fromage blanc, it will actually set up thicker because it is a semi-lactic type :)
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 28, 2012, 03:31:36 AM
Not really if you didn't add anything yet. It almost pasturized (I think that is like 230?) but won't hurt it. Just cool it to your normal operating temperature and continue on. Some cheeses work beter at that range then chilling down. That should be one of them.
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: anarch on February 28, 2012, 03:48:10 AM
Good!  Still cooling.  Also took some cheeses out of the cave tonight, will have to take pics!

Also, going to try  for a soft white mold on a few, hopefully a bit out of date rehydrated will still work.  I'll take pics of that in progess.
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 28, 2012, 03:53:08 AM
Maybe you can put the pot in a sink of cold water to chill it down.
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: anarch on February 28, 2012, 03:56:12 AM
I just put it outside on the deck, 35F....


I try not to rush things until after the kids are in bed ;). Then I rush around like a maniac trying to do everything I can!
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 28, 2012, 04:10:29 AM
Yeah I was looking at the clock thinking it's late to get started but you are at 8pm? or 9pm? 11 here!
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: anarch on February 28, 2012, 04:19:03 AM
I'm on mountain standard, just after 9.  Most my cheesemaking has taken place from about 6 pm til midnight.  8 more degrees to go...
Title: Re: ASAP help, fromage blanc milk temps
Post by: anarch on February 28, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
I think it turned out great :

This half is going to be eaten fresh with some chives and garlic after it drains for the day
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7191/6792503952_e8303ff88d_z.jpg)

Then, I put curds into 2 crottin molds and 4 chevre molds
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7051/6938622097_d509d6c24c_z.jpg)

The curds look good, I think the higher initial temp of the milk actually made a bit stronger curd than when I make this with the 145F
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7195/6938619857_544dd19bd7_z.jpg)

And, after they're drained I'm going to salt them, then spray them with a little PenC/Geo mix and try to get a white mold ripened cheese, I've never done this before, so I'll have to keep updating. 
Title: Re: UPDATE: fromage blanc milk temps (looks good!)
Post by: DeejayDebi on February 29, 2012, 03:59:06 AM
Well done! Most little snafous can be over come and thar one just needed time.
Title: Re: UPDATE: fromage blanc milk temps (looks good!)
Post by: anarch on March 01, 2012, 06:03:24 PM
So, the fromage blanc that we're eating fresh w/chives, thyme, and garlic is great.

The 6 little ones are on mats in the fridge, tonight I'll add some PenC/Geo spray and then put them in the cave!  Then we wait a while and hope that my mold grows.  The mold has been hydrated for about 6 weeks, so hoping it is still good. 

Title: Re: UPDATE: fromage blanc milk temps (looks good!) pics
Post by: anarch on March 02, 2012, 07:40:27 PM
OK, so the little cheeses were sprayed with PenC last night and put down in the cave to grow some fur: 

Can't wait!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7209/6947082319_6f72efd5bd_z.jpg)

Title: Re: UPDATE: fromage blanc milk temps (looks good!)
Post by: anarch on March 05, 2012, 06:07:06 PM
So, they went into the cave on Thursday night.  Temp and humidity regulated by an ice pack changed every 18-24 hours.  Humidity seems perfect, a little condensation on the inner plastic container when I change out the ice pack, temp good too, 55F. 

The beginning stages of the PenC coatings were growing really well this morning!  Looking good. 

Title: Re: UPDATE: changed to some sort of PenC ripened cheese, looking good.
Post by: anarch on March 06, 2012, 04:59:13 PM
Day 6:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7181/6813184210_b7db35cedc_b.jpg)

PenC (a little Geo) growth looks good.  Going to wait until Thursday night (leaving Fri-Mon), then move them from the cave, wrap them, and put them in the fridge.  They're showing no signs of any weird mold or anything.  Will try one of the six then (since it has a major fault/crack) and then take 2 to eat young over the weekend, and let the others go to 21-28 days.

Also, this make, I change the small ice pack out 1 time a day instead of 2 and I think it has been more favorable to rind development considering my basement where the cooler is is already in the 58-60F range.  I also wipe the interior moisture out of the bin daily, which I didn't do in previous attempts.
Title: Re: UPDATE: changed to some sort of PenC ripened cheese, looking good.
Post by: DeejayDebi on March 06, 2012, 10:23:10 PM
Looking  very nice. Sorry I didn't desert you I was "away" for a few days.