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Title: horseradish cheddar recipe?
Post by: Ptucker on March 13, 2012, 12:56:00 AM
Anyone know of a good horseradish cheddar recipe? If so what type of horseradish should be used?
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 13, 2012, 01:27:30 AM
Any good traditional cheddar recipe will work. Never tried it on a stirred curd.

Try to find a nice root and grate it or use a food processor outside (it will kill your eyes inside and be hard to breathe). Don't use more than 1 tablespoon per about 3 gallons of milk or it will overpower your cheese. I do like the bite though.

I add it at the cheddaring stage while the curds are still warm. I think it becomes absorbed better in the cheese rather than just sitting on top - some add it at the molding stage.
Title: Re: horseradish cheddar recipe?
Post by: Ptucker on March 13, 2012, 01:52:46 AM
Thanks DeejayDebi

That is pretty much what I needed to know, I will use my normal cheddar recipe as I am happy with it. Do you need to do anything special to sanitize the root besides wash it?
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 13, 2012, 02:06:13 AM
I just peel it with a carrot peeler - OUTSIDE at arms length. then use the ole knuckle buster box grater I like the shreds better than a food processor. Stay down wind! That stuff will take your breath away. Wouldn't hurt to wear mask too.
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Post by: Ptucker on March 13, 2012, 12:31:01 PM
Perfect Thanks
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Post by: Helen on March 14, 2012, 04:44:33 AM
I have taken to wearing mask AND swimming goggles when I do dangerous stuff like that.
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 14, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Yeah I think horseradish has got to be the stronest stuff in the garden! BTW ... if you find a good one at the store that is not all dry and dead you can set it in the glass of water and it will re-root. Then just plant in and it will grow again. The roots will keep making new plants. They pick best in the fall.
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Post by: Beans on March 14, 2012, 05:30:04 PM
Quote from: DeejayDebi on March 14, 2012, 05:11:56 PM
Yeah I think horseradish has got to be the stronest stuff in the garden! BTW ... if you find a good one at the store that is not all dry and dead you can set it in the glass of water and it will re-root. Then just plant in and it will grow again. The roots will keep making new plants. They pick best in the fall.

Thanks Deejay, I cant wait for spring to plant some.
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Post by: Tomer1 on March 14, 2012, 05:37:02 PM
You can grate the root and mix the H.R juice into your milk.
Passover is just around the corner, Im sure alot of roots will start to pop up soon.   Im seeing a wash curd horse radish cheese in my near future. :)
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 14, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
Roots do like the cooler weather.
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Post by: Ptucker on March 14, 2012, 10:21:26 PM
Be careful where you plant it, they have a way of going crazy within a few months. They will be everywhere
Title: Re: horseradish cheddar recipe?
Post by: DeejayDebi on March 15, 2012, 12:43:18 AM
Ah good point put them away from your regular garden or in pots. They are ALMOST as bad as mint or hops for taking over.
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Post by: dthelmers on March 15, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
A yard taken over by mint, hops, and horseradish IS my idea of a garden!
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Post by: Ptucker on March 15, 2012, 08:13:05 PM
That really does sound like a good garden maybe some barley and malt to go with it
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 16, 2012, 12:49:41 AM
Quote from: dthelmers on March 15, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
A yard taken over by mint, hops, and horseradish IS my idea of a garden!

Not when you have no room left for tomatoes! I used tons of tomatoes in a years time - I am after all Italian.  ;)
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Post by: mchcllns on March 24, 2012, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: dthelmers on March 15, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
A yard taken over by mint, hops, and horseradish IS my idea of a garden!
a man after my own heart

though djdeb has a point
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Post by: dthelmers on March 26, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
OK, I've been catching up on my forum reading and eating my latest Caerphilly with a little wasabi spread on top, and this is a fantastic combo! Anybody make a cheese with wasabi? This tastes really good, the two products are bringing out flavors in each other that I don't taste in either one individually. The Caerphilly is taking a lot of the bite out the wasabi, and I'm getting a sweet and nutty flavor not present before. My Caerphilly recipe is from 200 Easy, and doesn't involve cheddaring, just letting the curds sink and sit. I might try just adding a tube of wasabi to the curd before pressing. The wasabi I'm using is S&B prepared wasabi, which I think is a mixture of horseradish and mustard with some coloring, rather than the true wasabi plant of Japan. It's plenty hot by itself, but is getting amazingly tamed by this cheese.
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 26, 2012, 11:14:12 PM
I am thinking maybe just before when you add the salt. Might look cool to that stuff is pretty bright. I wonder if it will prevent the curds from matting?
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Post by: Ptucker on March 27, 2012, 12:27:40 AM
That sounds really good, I don't think matting the curds will be a problem, they should be come as one. I have a caerphilly that will be ready in a couple of weeks, I will have to try some wasabi with it.
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Post by: dthelmers on March 27, 2012, 01:19:15 PM
I was afraid that it might effect matting, too, but nothing ventured, nothing gained. I'll give it a try this weekend.
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Post by: DeejayDebi on March 28, 2012, 02:17:54 AM
Can't wait to see. It it does matt it should be really pretty like an easter egg!
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Post by: dthelmers on April 21, 2012, 08:36:31 PM
Follow up on this make: I made my regular Caerphilly make and added two tubes of prepared wasabi (actually horseradish and mustard, not true Japanese wasabi) to the curds just before pressing. Opened it yesterday. Not really any noticeable coloring from the wasabi except a little on the rind here and there. The taste is perfect! I can't stop eating it. It has a beautiful flavor of horseradish, just under the threshold of hot. I can't see any improvements to make on this, it's going into my regular rotation. The wasabi had no effect on the matting of the curd; the texture is just like all my other Caerphillys. I brined for 12 hours, where the recipe I basically follow from 200 Easy calls for 20, and the saltiness is just right. OK, going to take just one more bite...
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Post by: H-K-J on April 21, 2012, 08:47:51 PM
 dthelmers
Are you going to share the whole recipe and pics, this sounds MMMmmmgood ^-^
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Post by: dthelmers on April 22, 2012, 02:04:34 AM
Pictures will have to wait until I get a working camera, but here's the make:

4 gallons of p/h whole milk
1/2 teaspoon of MM100 (aroma mesophilic - L. lactis, L. cremoris, L. diacetylactis)
3/4 teaspoon calcium chloride
3/4 teaspoon liquid calf rennet

The night before the make put 1/8 teaspoon of culture in each gallon, let sit for five minutes to rehydrate, put on lids and shake, then back in the fridge

Day of the make: heat milk to 90 fahrenheit. Since the culture is already in the milk, I'm getting a pH drop by this point and it smells buttery.
Dilute calcium chloride in 1/4 cup of cool water and stir in.
Dilute the rennet in 1/4 cup of cool filtered water and stir in.
Check for flocculation and use a multiplier of 3.5
Cut curd into 3/4"-1" cubes, let rest 10 minutes
Stir gently, just jiggling the curd while raising the heat to 95 over 30 minutes, stirring gently. Lift and turn the curd as it gets firmer, and cut any large chunks down with a knife.
Turn off heat and cover for 45 minutes
Line a big colander with cheesecloth, and start scooping out the whey with a big measuring cup, thoroughly wetting the cheesecloth (this helps prevent sticking later)
Scoop out the curds into the cheese cloth and move them around with your hands to get more whey out.
Gather up the corners of the cloth and twist it tight, then press with your hands expelling whey, tighten a little more and squeeze out more whey.
The curd should now have very little visible whey and should be matted into a big ball.
Add 2 tubes of prepared wasabi, and knead into the curd mass.
Place the curd in the cloth into the mold, press it down well, and fold one corner over the top, then place follower.
Press at .5 psi for one half hour, flip, redress, and press another half hour.
Flip, redress, press at 2 psi for six hours.
Remove from press and brine in 18% brine for 12 hours.
Dry at room temp until it is dry to touch, then into the cave for 3 weeks.
Title: Re: horseradish cheddar recipe?
Post by: H-K-J on April 22, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
All right! :) after my swiss make I believe this will be my next cheese attempt  ^-^
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Post by: DeejayDebi on April 23, 2012, 01:22:55 AM
Sounds delicious! I will have to try this one soon.
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Post by: Boofer on August 21, 2012, 02:42:22 PM
I recently bought some horseradish Cheddar, which was really tasty, and I was looking for a recipe to make my own version. Dave's recipe intrigued me and I started shopping for S&B Wasabi. I ran across this post (http://wasabireviews.com/archives/33) which made me back away from the paste. I'll either try to find a true wasabi product or use real horseradish.

-Boofer-
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Post by: bbracken677 on August 21, 2012, 02:50:00 PM
Yikes!  I was going to joke about the wasabi killing the cheese, but after reading that, it may actually be true!    haha

First time I tasted wasabi I had no idea as to the potency....whoa! 
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Post by: BobE102330 on August 21, 2012, 02:51:08 PM
Thank you for that post Boofer. Somewhere along the line I knew that most "wasabi" in the US is fake, but didn't know the hazards.

I've got a bunch of finely grated horseradish that will be dry for my next make.  Anyone have any ideas how much to add to a 2# cheese?  I like it hot, as my chilihead tagline indicates.
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Post by: staciestitches on August 22, 2012, 01:24:16 AM
We freeze our horseradish after harvesting. It does lose a little of the "bite", but it lasts a long time in the freezer.
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Post by: Boofer on August 22, 2012, 05:46:22 AM
I went shopping today. My local market greatly expanded their Asian foodstuffs. Among their newer products are the ones pictured.

-Boofer-
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Post by: KimCheese on August 22, 2012, 12:29:54 PM
Boofer,

Are you going to make your own annatto colouring with that find? If so could you let me know how you might go about it?
Annatto seeds are one thing I can get locally! ;)
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Post by: Boofer on August 22, 2012, 03:56:30 PM
I'm thinking it's worth a try. I'm not sure what the color strength would be. I think each of those packages cost about $.78 which makes it really reasonable (unless the color saturation is below expectations).

To start, my intent is to take a measure of the powder combined with a measure of distilled water and boil the two for a period of time to meld the two and to sterilize the mixture. Then I would strain it and put it into a small container for use.

The coloring is on the surface of the seeds, so there's no need to crush the seeds. For them I would follow a course similar to this (http://stephaniedas.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Make-Annatto-Oil), using distilled water.

-Boofer-