Author Topic: Intro and first cheeses  (Read 3480 times)

dthelmers

  • Guest
Intro and first cheeses
« on: November 16, 2010, 03:03:41 PM »
My name is Dave, and I live in the middle of the city of Meriden, CT. I've been lurking for a while on this forum and haven't posted yet, because every time I had a question I searched the archives and found a wealth of information. I started making pressed cheese this August. I bought an inexpensive cheese press, than made my own with improvements, then made another with more improvements, learning from this group. I have a dozen various cheeses that we are serving this Saturday at a local event, and they all came out great, thanks to following the advice I found on this board.
Thanks to everyone for sharing your experience with us; it has probably cut years off my learning curve!
Dave in CT

KosherBaker

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 03:44:57 PM »
Welcome to the board Dave. We love seeing pictures of the cheese around here. :) In fact we love seeing any kind of cheese making pictures. :)

dthelmers

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 05:32:48 PM »
I'll try to get a camera working by Saturday, and photograph the cheese board we're serving.
Dave

Offline Boofer

  • Old Cheese
  • *****
  • Location: Lakewood, Washington
  • Posts: 5,015
  • Cheeses: 344
  • Contemplating cheese
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 08:50:12 PM »
Welcome to the forum, Dave.

You've come to the right place. Lots of good info and guidance here. Good to hear you're tuned into the search function.  ;)

-Boofer-
Let's ferment something!
Bread, beer, wine, cheese...it's all good.

Cheese Head

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 11:24:35 PM »
Welcome Dave! Another trick for you and others is to browse to the applicable Board then in that board click on Subject Heading and all the posts sort alphabetically, so easier to find posts about Salt or rennet etc.

Have fun!

dthelmers

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2010, 01:18:01 AM »
Thanks, John. I first used the search feature, then went through by topic and read all there was on all the cheese types I made, to find out what I didn't know. I've learned a LOT, and the threads have walked me through a variety of issues and helped me understand the underlying processes, particularly pH and pressing pressure. I've got a 20 to 1 (theoretical) mechanical advantage on my latest press, thanks to using a double pulley system (thanks Boofer and Sailor con Queso), and it's made a world of difference. Soon I'll have a pH meter and can get some consistent repeatability. I started with one pound batches, then moved to two pounds, then to four. I find that the larger batches are easier to do - less vulnerable to temperature fluctuation, but I needed to beef up my pressing. the threads on psi and the accompanying charts were a big help!
Thanks to everyone who posts on this forum; it's the highlight of my day now.
Dave in CT

Bishop

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 09:20:56 AM »
Welcome

iratherfly

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2010, 04:29:25 PM »
Hi Dave, welcome to the forum! Can't wait to see what you came up with so far!

pinkcell

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2010, 01:36:54 AM »
Hi Dave,

I have just discovered this forum and saw your are from the same area as me (I'm by the Mohegan sun casino in uncasville). I'm Ludivine by the way. I was wondering if you could help me with a cheese press. I'm too lazy to build one (not very good at it also) and I saw you built a few. By any chance would you sell them? Can you recommend a few good thread to read as well?

Thanks

Ludivine

dthelmers

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 02:56:04 AM »
Yes, I'd be happy to make another one. The cost would be $150; or if you are handy, I'll make the plans available in a pdf format. I'll get back to you on the threads that were helpful to me in making the press.
Dave

dthelmers

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2010, 02:44:14 PM »
Here are a couple of pictures of the cheese we served on Saturday. They went over very well.

pinkcell

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2010, 02:52:08 PM »
They look great!

I bought a press for 80 bucks shipped. But you may want to put the details of your press for someone else to use.

Cheers

iratherfly

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2010, 11:52:14 PM »
Oh, very cool! I see grana with Caraway? Cumin? Not too strong? How old are they? Very nice!!!

dthelmers

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2010, 01:22:26 AM »
They caraway is eight weeks old and the cumin is seven weeks old. I don't know if gran is the proper name for this cheese. I wasn't following a specific recipe, but generally following the style of Italian cheeses. They were made with whole milk, with a little lipase, Chobani brand yogurt for thermophilic culture; let the culture set for 45 minutes, added rennet, clean break in 45 minutes, cut the curd into 1 inch cubes, rested for 15 minutes (this method is working best for me with the somewhat over-pasteurized cheap milk I have been using). I cut the curd into rice sized pieces and brought to 110 over 45 minutes, stirring gently. Drained and pressed at moderate pressure, turning and re-dressing at 30 minutes three times, then heavy pressure overnight. Brined for 1-1/2 hours per pound in 18 percent brine, dried at 65 f for three days, turning frequently, then vacuum sealed and aged at 55 f. This cheese develops flavor early - we've eaten it at two weeks and enjoyed it. It tasted much like provolone.
The plain one was the most popular, followed by the caraway. Most people did not like the cumin. I tend to be a bit ham-handed with spices and seasonings, and I used too much cumin seed. But I like cumin, so lunches are covered for quite a while. I re-sealed a half wheel, and we'll see how it tastes later on.
The distinctive lipase taste appears to be mellowing as they age.
Just a note on the milk I've been using: I've been getting Land of Lakes milk form BJ's Wholesale Club for $1.98 a gallon, and am getting a bit more than a pound per gallon yield. The curd is quite fragile at first, so I've learned to cut it large and let it rest 10-15 minutes no matter what else I do, and those 1 inch cubes shrink down to about 1/2" in that time. Then I return to the recipe I'm following for proper milk.
I love making cheese, and look forward to using better milk, but right now it's about price: I can feed my family cheese for $2 a pound, and that that makes us happy. :D
the gouda that we served is very young. I made it Halloween night, but we sampled it last week just to see how young it was, and we couldn't stop eating it. Wow! Gouda grows up fast! I re-sealed the remaining half wheel, and put it back in the cave until Christmas.
There's a world of difference between the gouda I pressed at 32 lbs and the latest I pressed at 160 lbs.
Really, this is a lot of fun!
Dave in CT

FarmerJd

  • Guest
Re: Intro and first cheeses
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2010, 05:14:43 AM »
I somehow missed this thread. Just adding my welcome to you. Sounds like you are off to a great start. Welcome aboard.