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Quote from: Wayne Harris on December 30, 2009, 08:23:02 PM
While i know that it is billed as a no-rinse sanitizer, I never use tools, tubing, pans, whatever, when its still foamy or wet with it.

It's fine to be used foamy in beer fermenters, but with cheese I can believe it wouldn't be good.

Truth be told, I always rinse. And dry.

But I use both of these,


Star San is an acid based sanitizer that is quick, odorless, tasteless and safe for most materials except softer metals. Use of 1 oz per 5 gallons of water and a contact time of 1 minute makes Star San very economical and convenient.
As a high foamer, Star San's foaming action insures coverage and contact time in larger vessels and better penetration into nooks and crannys. Any foam that is left over in your carboy or keg will not harm your beer or you, and is perfectly safe and non-toxic, nor will it impart any flavors or odors.

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and this:


SaniClean is the low-foam version of Star San. With a contact time of 2-3 minutes it is not as fast as Star San, but works as well. You also have to use twice as much, 2 oz per 5 gallons, for the same effect. However if you are using a pump it is the right choice. SaniClean is also known as a flavor and odor removal, making it the perfect choice for acid rinsing your dispensing equipment. Made by the same company that makes Star San and PBW and packaged in the same easy to use container as the 32 oz Star San.)

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does using this stuff mean you don't have to boil everything?

I'm assuming you'd only use it on hard equipment like pots, molds, and whisks, but not on soft stuff like cheese cloth or bamboo mats.

I clean everything first.  Removing solid matter and boifilm.

Then I  use Starsan on everything.,Including me!

I dunk my hands in the solution before every cheesemaking endeavor.

And yes, I soak cheese cloth, muslin, tools, hoses, spoons, pan. 
Basically anything coming in contact with the milk.
Even temp and pH probes..

Yeah, it's just a sanitizer.  This stuff isn't a cleanser. 

After cleaning everything off with proper abrasives or such, you submerge or coat with SS for a couple minutes and it is germ free.

I'm certain you don't need it, but it makes sanitizing very easy and quick without the burning chemicals norma;;y used for sanitizing food equip.

Someone asked where to buy.  MoreBeer.com(same company as morewine.com) is a great source and they are great people.  Northernbrewer.com is another great national homebrew shop.  If you look around you should be able to find a local homebrew shop.  Most will carry the five star products.